Perchmaster December 31, 2009 at 12:58 am Reply Professor I agree with you on your points of catching wallys on Eagle and in my opinion I think that the slot size and no nighttime fishing on Eagle is helping improve the fishery all around on Eagle.I remember when I first started fishing Eagle back in the 70's and the wally fishing was good and when we first started visiting VBL some 10 years ago or so the wally fishing was ok but has gotten better each year with the qaulity of fish growing.I can only see this fishery becoming one of the best in the near future as long as the rules are kept in place for it.Great post by the way
NewMexicam December 31, 2009 at 3:07 am Reply Hi Professor, I met you three years ago when I came to Eagle for the 35th year. I had only fishes Muskies for all of those years. Gord introduced me to walleyes at that time. Others had attempted to get me to try it for years and all of them had concluded that I had a better chance of being a brain surgeon that a walleye fisherman. My own dad gave up on me and my wife gave my walleye rods away to children she didn't even know just to spare me continued humiliation. Then came bottom bouncing. I shined and eventually RULED!! I love it. Now I look forward to splitting my time between Muskie and walleye. Gord says at 66 years young I am still trainable. I appreciate your opinion on bad things that can happen at 50 plus feet. I had one casualty at 50 or so last year so I believe it. It's easy… casting into tree branches is to shallow. Fishing in more than 50 is to deep. There is a lot of water in between. Be well. Thanks for the "jump start" you gave me into Walleye World" My best, Bill
Andy Lewis December 31, 2009 at 3:53 am Reply Great post Professor! I have had the privilege of fishing with the professor on many outings. We have had fun getting skunked and we have had a blast catching fish hand over fist. My best recollection was a double with two walleyes over 30" on Big Bay du Noc. We hope to repeat that some day on Eagle. I want to point out another factor influencing the fishery on Eagle and most bodies of water. Catch and release fishing. Joe and others have raised some important issues regarding the mortality rate of deep water fish. Despite what people want to believe, there is a mortality rate that goes with any catch and release fishing. However, even the worst mortality rate noted by Joe (35% at 50 feet)is close to three times better than the anglers that used to keep everything they caught (100% mortality for those of you that are challenged by math). One last note. While it's never pleasant to be forced to release a slot fish that you know is going to die, I have never seen one of these fish float for more than a few minutes before being scooped up by an eagle. Eagles have to eat too. The future of fishing is bright because of better fishery management and more conservation minded anglers. One exception to this rule. Nothing pleases Gord like bringing back a burlap bag full of big perch. Consult with the Perchmaster…he knows where and when to find them. Tight lines for everyone in 2010! Andy
Perchmaster December 31, 2009 at 8:21 pm Reply Nothing pleases Gord like bringing back a burlap bag full of big perch. Consult with the Perchmaster…he knows where and when to find them. Yea Gord loves that more than anything when he hears today is perch fishing day….Think he hope for motor troubles that day so we don't make it or the beavers built a hut so high that we can't get over it.I will never forget the first trip perch fishing and we had to go over beaver huts think 3 of them that year was well worth it but the ride back was one I will never forget….Thanks to guide Gord Eiler Sorry if I killed the spelling of his name…
Andy Lewis January 1, 2010 at 1:35 am Reply Perchmaster, People can laugh all they want to, but I followed your tips a few years ago with Steve Kohlstedt and we caught a mess of nice bull perch. It was a nice way to break up the trip. One of the things I really like about Eagle Lake is the diversity of fishing opportunities. This is just one more opportunity and nothing tastes better than perch! I'm hoping to make a spring and fall trip this year but my daughter's graduation may get in the way of the spring trip….we'll see. Andy
Gord January 1, 2010 at 3:28 pm Reply I would agree that the walleye fishing on Eagle has really come on in the last decade. I would also say from what I saw (& heard) this summer that the muskie fishing has gone the same way. Fishing "responsibly" is likely the key to fishing walleye in deeper water. The points that the professor makes are good ones. I think the 30% mortality the study points out are likely not out of line. I have noticed more stress on fish caught via the bottom bouncer technique vs a more verticle jig & minnow presentation. Perhaps time is the key between the two……generally it is a quicker release with the jig (less line out?). Something to consider. I think the quick release is essential….perhaps flattened barbs, less hooks, no photo etc.. The crawler harness may need modification, or, perhaps more use of artificial baits / spoons with the bottom bouncer. I throw these ideas out for consideration. I would also add a point to the professors list. This would be to become familiar with the signs of stress on the fish you are catching and act accordingly. These signs include the obvious bulging eyes and protruding stomachs…..but also more subtle signs of internal bleeding and rupture…reddish gill and "neck" areas. I've cleaned many fish that have come out of deep water that had internal bleeding. Fatal, perhaps, but definately not the best state for the fish. Fish responsibly, and keep improving our release techniques. The fishing quality will continue its upwards spiral if we do so.
Perchmaster January 1, 2010 at 3:31 pm Reply AndyThe way the weather has been the last couple of years early June would have been better for those Eagle Lake JUMBO perch.The weed growth the last couple of years in May has been slow due to cold weather so if you can hit it in June I amsure you can bring back a limit of JUMBOS for Gord to clean for hours.If you need the info on where to get the Chena bait just let Gord know or you can e-mail me and I will get you the info.
Gord January 1, 2010 at 4:33 pm Reply I hate to mention this but even I was impressed with some giant "perch" that were brought in this summer…from Lake "X". I've been meaning to mention this to Perchmaster as an alternative to where he normally perch fishes. This is a lake nearby that he is familiar with….plenty of weed edges and water that should be warmer than others. The perch were sooooo thick that laying on the fish house table they were "mega jumbos" (Perchmaster is now drooling)….I will reveal the secret to him this spring and he can check it out and report back…..
Andy Lewis January 1, 2010 at 7:02 pm Reply Perchmaster, If it's not lake "x", I think I know a spot that would be very good for perch. When are you going this spring? Perhaps Gord could arrange a one day perch fishing tournament with the winner taking possession of a jeweled tierra? We fished with pieces of crawler before, but I have purchased Chenna bait on the web as well. Gord gets a good bell laugh, but it was literally like fishing bone fish. You would pick out the biggest perch, cast too it, and bingo. The only problem is that it was windy when Steve and Shawn and I fished and the ripples got in the way at times. We also started fishing in the wrong end of the bay, but once we found them, it was constant action. Andy
Gord January 1, 2010 at 8:31 pm Reply Does that mean I have to purchase special "flats" boats with the raised platform for the dude who has to pole the boat? There is the business opportunity of a specialized "sight fishing for bull perch" clothing line. Very exclusive!
Perchmaster January 1, 2010 at 8:32 pm Reply Not sure but Lake "X" would be one of 2 lakes and the one I remember catching nice perch in but have not been back to that lake. Gord might have an idea there if it is a cold spring again and hitting lake "X" for the day might very well be an option.Thanks for the reminder Gord kind of forgot about that lake if it is the one I am thinking of?
Perchmaster January 1, 2010 at 8:35 pm Reply Fishing for "BULLPERCH" in calm waters is a PLUS as you can then see them and are much easier to target. I won't forget the day we had to 4 wheel into one lake and 100 perch in 55 minutes and it was calm and some good weeds and you could just pull one after another….
Professor January 2, 2010 at 9:33 pm Reply Gord…The MN DNR study points to depth of catch and time out of the water as the two main variables that influence walleye mortality. A jig offers an advantage only if it is quickly removed so that the fish can be released fast. But your comment has me thinking that I should document my results with a three-hook spinner harness fished barbless, as well as a spinner with a single hook baited with a gulp minnow. Both rigs on bottom-bouncers, though. Hopefully, my sugar mama missus will be able to support this kind of work in the name of science.
Professor January 3, 2010 at 8:31 pm Reply Hi NewMexicam…I remember meeting you and recall being astounded that you traveled so very far from home to get to VBL. You made a fine choice, though. I was very sorry to read of the vicious abuse heaped upon you by family members. I hope they have to eat a big bowl of crow every day as a reminder that once a person receives the right opportunity, they will catch lots of walleyes. My hats off to you for proving how very wrong they were.